Comprehensive list of all videos Lloyd Evans related for posterity’s sake. Let me know if there is a video missing from this list. This was all done from memory.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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5a. Lloyd asks KS/PB to be close to Dijana in his absentia for Thailand
This right here. You can’t insist on privacy when BOTH parties in this marriage voluntarily went to two people who had a working relationship with Lloyd and asked them to intervene. That’s just insane.
7a. Dijana desperately asks KS/PB for help.This really has to be one of the most dumbshit lawsuits ever filed that wasn’t handwritten by a deranged prisoner with nothing else better to do.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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7b. Lloyd sends the infamous email to Dijana bragging about his sexual experiences with Thai girls feeling over the moon for the first time because a young girl touched his leg
I thought that email was in reference to the Texas dates he had set up through a dating app. If this was in relation to his Thailand trip, that makes it even more weird. Consider this: He felt excited and over the moon because young Thai girls he paid for sex touched his leg and seemed to be interested in him? Wasn’t that their job? Is he really this deluded?
He does think 620 patrons is a reachable goal so it was more of a rhetorical question.
Does he think the cash person at McDonald’s is personally interested in him when they say “see you soon, come again” after he picks up his Big Mac?
I think he only wanted her to maintain the married man facade, to look after his children and to be his housekeeper and personal chef
Absolutely. I’d like to add that he wanted them still married because a divorce would have caused a bit of a stir and questions to be asked as to what happened. It was a business decision with an arranged marriage as the ultimate result.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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I do believe he got off on this and seemed to take a perverse pleasure in letting other parties know he wasn’t faithful to his wife. This was a plot point on the Wedding Singer movie when Drew Barrymore’s fiancé informs the Adam Sandler character in a club that he has sex with other women for no apparent reason other than to brag about it and make himself seem like a ladies man.
But didn’t all this happen all round the time she caught him in Texas and he came back and demanded an open relationship when confronted about it? I think the timeline to all this matters a lot if we are trying to get round what might have been going on in his head. Here’s what I think is the timeline of events but I am not entirely sure.
- Lloyd goes to an atheist event in Texas. He arranged some online dates with locals and got off on feeling that younger women could possibly be interested in him. Pics were taken and Dijana found them on the shared iCloud.
- Lloyd flies back to Croatia and is confronted with the evidence. He then demands an open marriage.
- Dijana agrees at first and then backs out within a 24 hour period of time.
- Lloyd tells KS and PB about prostitutes, Texas and the open marriage proposal.
- Lloyd makes arrangements to go to Thailand, leaving his family alone for Christmas.
- KS/PB talk Lloyd out of this and he agrees to leave for Thailand on 26 December 2021.
- Dijana finds more pics on the iCloud and she’s done. She informs Lloyd she intends to divorce him.
- KS/PB resign from JW Watch.
- Lloyd returns early from a planned 2 month trip in order to manipulate his wife into not divorcing him and tries to negotiate with her by agreeing to come off dating apps, but still see sex workers and watch porn because she cannot satisfy him.
Please correct me if I am wrong with that timeline, but it seems to me that 2, 3, and 4 all happen in a quick succession of events shortly before Christmas. If so, it would seem to me that he might have been trying to involve others to convince Dijana to reconsider the open relationship demand?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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He still has over 100K followers on YouTube
That’s not an accurate accounting of active subscribers. This forum has a tonne of users but only a small percentage are active. Some have passed away, there are some duplicate accounts but by far the most are people who have moved on. It’s the typical cycle for exJWS. Most don’t spend more than 3-4 years active in the community. Many of Lloyd’s subs are people who have moved on. The views indicate that roughly 1/10th of his total subs are actually active. And views aren’t that accurate either as some click on the video twice or more.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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The zeitgeist of the AAWA era was insane. At first everyone loved it and it was such a great intro video that Lloyd produced.
Then Lloyd happened.
I took a back seat on most of that, knowing he’d find a way to fuck it up. It was clear to me that he was holding onto his position as president because he was either promised or was already getting a decent amount of money. If it was a volunteer position, he would have bolted out of there long before he did.
Then he comes back here after his resignation like a wounded animal, taking subtle shots at Bo Juel and blaming him as the main reason for leaving. As it turned out, Bo was at the dinner at Dick Kelly’s home and he called an idea of Lloyd’s “stupid”. English isn’t his first language so it wasn’t as harsh as it might have sounded and Bo made the distinction that the idea was stupid, not Lloyd personally. (I respectfully disagree with Mr Juel)
Lloyd stood up at one point and in tears, demanded an apology. When Bo tried to explain without first offering an apology, Lloyd took his wife and said they were leaving. Lloyd later claimed that Bo was hitting on Dijana. Bo was a ladies man for sure, but as he explained it, he was only being friendly and she wasn’t his type.
Story goes that after Lloyd left, everyone at the AAWA meeting was making fun of him and how much of a petulant child he was being.
Can’t help but think that if Bo was really hitting on Dijana, she might have been better off taking him up on it. The infidelities might have continued but Bo had his own band, his own business and would have actually given her a decent bang for the first time in her life.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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So his livestream, which was meant to get control of the situation, instead made things worse
TonusOH - Excellent post, I think you accurately summed up the last year for him.
Regarding the livestream, I found this comment which was a little off script for him in its honesty as to where his mind was at.
He does acknowledge it was a bad idea to go live like that, but he misses the point entirely. No words were misconstrued. Perhaps he means he didn't exactly say the words "I saw sex workers in Thailand" in the livestream, but in his "update" that he mentions he admits to seeing sex workers (plural) in Thailand. Thus, he completely obliterates that line of argument and immediately makes it worse on himself.
He's an extremely poor liar who by his clumsy attempts it appears has never really been called out for being one before. Not by his parents, his wife, and most exJWs up until that point. He's someone who thinks everyone should and will trust what he says as coming from a position of authority. Possibly a bit of that elder mentality he has held onto (sorry Tibor).
It's also worth noting that the pic of the Thai girl he was with had not been circulating at the time of the livestream which was probably why he omitted any direct reference to visiting sex workers there. When he released his "update" on 4 February, the pic was out, he knew he was caught and needed some explanation about meeting young women in Thailand. He gave a convoluted explanation which was not well thought out, and then only compounded further when he told Andrew Gold he was dating a sex worker.
The prudent thing to do as pr0ner had pointed out was to wait and see what information was out there and work out his response once he knew the extent of the damage. In his arrogance he thought he could mitigate all damage immediately and have the guns turned on Kim and others. This arrogance of his was the weak point in all this, and it cost him dearly. 405 patrons now and the month is half over. His begging bump have been mostly reversed. The information is out there, and people are reading about him and what he did. It's insanity to give this guy any money and though people may still watch his content, they'll think twice about hitting the Patreon button.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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I probably should take him up on the challenge too, since my name would probably come up if him and Lloyd were discussing the goings-on at JWN.
Dear Tibor,
For the record, I have never subscribed to the green screen theory. I believe what sparked it was misplaced curiosity as to whether Lloyd had been kicked out. Not sure if I said this out loud, but I felt that it wasn't in Dijana's nature to kick Lloyd out like that. As it turned out, both of us were correct and even when Lloyd was living in Zagreb he was still using the bunker for a period of time. So, I think we can move on from the green screen controversy, since it was only a minor point to begin with and only a certain handful of people were espousing it. You were right, and the handful here who thought differently were wrong. So, deal or no deal?
You have stated you would answer questions if written to you in a respectful manner. In your reply to Jonathan Burger, you kept refusing to answer things you did not know or had proof for. This is great, and if so, feel free to give me the same response if applicable. So, I am going to try to ask things you definitely would know, such as your thoughts on certain matters.
I posted that exchange between you and Producer Bob on Lloyd's Andrew Gold interview's livechat. Do you care to explain how PB and Kim were the main reasons Dijana was "unwell" relative to what Lloyd did to her last year? Remember, the Gold livechat was on 14 April 2022, thus 2 and a half months from the time of the livestream. Is this firsthand knowledge you've obtained from Dijana herself or was the information from Lloyd? If you did speak to Dijana, was Lloyd in the room? Was it a group chat where Lloyd was present? I ask because it's important to know that she was not under any pressure to lessen any of the blame that was rightfully his.
How did you hear of Lloyd frequenting sex workers? Kim's statement? Lloyd's livestream? Or was it before? How do you feel about it, particularly of his statements regarding dating and seeing sex workers in Thailand?
Have you and Lloyd had an in-depth discussion of what his activities in Thailand entailed as well as his infidelities including sex workers? If so, would it be too much to ask for you to give a summary of it?
How did you feel about what Lloyd did to Dijana? There are many so I'll bullet point them. Please do keep in mind screenshots exist supporting all of these questions:
- Lloyd's open marriage proposal as outlined in his email
- The WhatsApp chat where Lloyd claims he still loves Dijana, "despite all your faults" (Note: This was sent from him in Thailand in response to Dijana catching the pics he took with the sex worker and asking for a divorce)
- Frequenting sex workers "2-3 months for 3-4 years"
- Lloyd telling the world that Dijana didn't sexually satisfy him (Note: Kim did NOT leak this. Lloyd did in the livestream)
- Lloyd's history of infidelity ranging back to 2008 when he was sexting girls as he put it.
Knowing Dijana personally, why do you think she released all this information to third parties?
What are your personal concerns regarding this whole scandal? Have you expressed these concerns to Lloyd and if so, how did he respond?
What are your concerns relating to the damage this has done to Lloyd's business, i.e. Ipsilon Media of which you are a paid employee of? Have you directed any of this to Lloyd? What has been his response? Have you advised him upon any of his subsequent actions?
Do you feel that Lloyd is in any way compromised by his activities in Thailand, and do you understand the way this looks to others as a CSA activist and sex worker enthusiast leaving his wife for a solo trip there?
Do you feel that you being employed by Lloyd and thus financially dependent upon him has influenced some of your decisions and behaviour after the livestream? Do you think your opinion might be compromised? Why or why not?
Have you personally done anything to help Dijana and the girls completely independent of Lloyd? This can include counsel, company, gifts, dinner, basically anything you can think of to make her feel better and supported.
Being a natural born Croatian national, I feel you'd know more about the Croatian legal system than anyone here or Lloyd. What are your thoughts regarding the validity of Lloyd's "criminal lawsuit" as filed in Sisak Municipal Court? Is Lloyd really trying to hold foreign nationals to the Croatian Criminal Code for alleged crimes committed outside Croatia's borders? Or is it something else we just don't understand about the court system there?
Do you feel it is valid for Lloyd to call the seven people he is suing "criminal defendants" when none of them have been served or summoned by the Court?
Regarding the 4 September 2022 statement by Lloyd (I have screenshots if you dispute this): Lloyd said he would chase Kim and the others down until he was 84 years old or until his dying breath if necessary. He stated he would travel to Australia amongst other places to enact this "justice". What are your thoughts regarding these threats? Is Lloyd right to pursue them this way for 40+ years? Do you think it helped your business or did it only stir things up worse?
What are your thoughts on Lloyd's actions in the aftermath, including continued threats (screenshots will be provided if you are wondering), petulant behaviour on social media and him intentionally seeking conflict? Does this help his activism or more accurately, business?
Can you point to anything Kim or any of the other 7 people being sued has said that is false? Lloyd refuses to answer this, but I thought you might. If you can bring something to light that is demonstrably false, it would go a long way toward getting a retraction and possibly even an apology from the offending party.
Did Lloyd tell you how he dated a sex worker in Thailand? Do you know what Lloyd meant by saying he met more than one sex worker there, and the female in the pic that was circulated was not one of them?
Has anything Lloyd presented either to you personally or otherwise factually untrue? Please provide examples if so.
Do you feel that Lloyd has contradicted himself in any way regarding the livestream vis-a-vis the 4 February FB statement and other statements made on social media?
Why have you chosen to remain in Lloyd's employ? Is it solely for the money or do you have other interests in supporting Lloyd's work?
Where did you get the term "JW Mindset" and its definition from? Was it from Lloyd, or have you come to these conclusions yourself with no influence from him?
I'll end it with this: In a way, I feel you've been caught in the middle of all this exJW infighting. However, you are firmly on Team Lloyd with your various statements made and of course the video you made. I truly hope you can come to peace with this. For someone who has actually met all members of the Evans family, I hope your association with them is beneficial and not one-sided towards one party and their interests. It is my sincere hope that you can move on from Lloyd Evans and obtain employment that really utliises your talents. Fair is fair, and should you have any questions please ask away.
Signed,
Self-Indulgent (Lloyd called me this once. It was quite flattering coming from him)
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What is your favorite EX- JW You Tube site and why???
by Balaamsass2 inthe mrs (third gen) and i have been on this site for a number of years now.
we appreciate simon's efforts to keep this site active and available.
i find a number of pimo jw friends enjoy youtube for some reason.
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Telltale has more patrons
LOL. He had easily over double of what Telltale had over a year ago.